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Bill Gates knocks Apple, makes no sense whatsoever

Posted by Dan Moren | Friday, February 02, 2007 8:05 AM PT

Bill Gates, at restOh, Billy boy. With all of your philanthropy, I thought you’d outgrown the whole petty business thing. I’d developed an almost grudging respect for you—then you and go and throw that all away. It’s sad is what it is.

In an interview with Newsweek’s Steven Levy, Bill was asked about Vista and Microsoft, and their relationship with OS X and Apple. He had several choice things to say. I think.

Nowadays, security guys break the Mac every single day. Every single day, they come out with a total exploit, your machine can be taken over totally. I dare anybody to do that once a month on the Windows machine. So, yes, it took us longer, and they had what we were doing, user interface-wise. Let’s be realistic, who came up with [the] file, edit, view, help [menu bar]? Do you want to go back to the original Mac and think about where those interface concepts came from?
I would guess that the reference to people hacking the Mac “every single day” is a reference to the Month of Apple Bugs project—and that’s pretty generous, considering the end result. But as for anybody doing that to Windows once a month, well, Bill’s right: hacking Windows is like Lays potato chips—you can’t do it just once. I don’t really understand what Bill’s trying to say about the interface concepts. That Apple predates Microsoft with those ideas is not even an argument—it’s a matter of the linearity of the space-time continuum.

Gates also shared some thoughts on the Get a Mac campaign:

Are you bugged by the Apple commercial where John Hodgman is the PC, and he has to undergo surgery to get Vista?
I’ve never seen it. I don’t think the over 90 percent of the [population] who use Windows PCs think of themselves as dullards, or the kind of klutzes that somebody is trying to say they are…certainly we’ve done a better job letting you upgrade on the hardware than our competitors have done. You can choose to buy a new machine, or you can choose to do an upgrade. And I don’t know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don’t even get it. What are they trying to say? Does honesty matter in these things, or if you’re really cool, that means you get to be a lying person whenever you feel like it? There’s not even the slightest shred of truth to it.
I agree that the commercial is hyperbolic, but really, not even the slightest shred of truth? What next, Bill? Are you going to tell us there’s little confusion in picking the right version of Vista?

Comments (9)

"you get to be a lying person"?

Bill was always known for his eloquence.

Dave
February 02, 2007
12:17 PM PT

Haha...my favorite part is when he said Apple has no security software updates.

Johnald126 Author Profile Page
February 02, 2007
12:35 PM PT

What else Bill Gate got to say!? been winodws user for years I can honestly say windows SUCKS , VISTA sucks too. and about the security issues, I am suprised he didn't mentioned that IE6 and IE7 is more safer than SAFARI!!!!!

Ali
February 02, 2007
1:28 PM PT

Of course, there's always the fact of a small company called Xerox and a little place it owned called PARC in regard to the GUI that both Apple and Microsoft use, the legal case that followed meetings by both Apple and Microsoft with the PARC team who developed the Alto (and then STAR) which used the GUI - and the fact that both Apple and Microsoft were judged against in that court case and had to pay relatively large sums to Xerox for, um, borrowing the technology for their own Graphical User Interfaces and WYSIWYG enviroments - and PARC had this running around 76/77, a little before Apple or Microsoft had really become major players..... Yep, the MAC got there before 3.1, but only after a long chat with Xerox PARC

Sam
February 02, 2007
1:59 PM PT

Bill is confusing. Apple did create the menubar

http://smallurl.co.uk/?833

And did anyone else see that littleURL is down?

February 02, 2007
3:06 PM PT

FUD!

Actually, I have never seen B. Gates so taken by surprise. He has nothing intelligent to say on how Apple is having fun at his expense. And as expected, nor real intelligent replies.

This is an interesting turn of things as we are witnessing a distressed Microsoft that cannot address the situation properly, nor make sense of it.

And the good news is he will step down. Pfew, at last. Investors have been demanding this for a long, long time.

But seriously now, trying to pock at security with Macs when you gave the world the best swiss cheese hole filled with vulnerabilities OS? Ah c'mon Billy, take a chill pill!

February 02, 2007
3:48 PM PT

I wonder if he realizes how many people are buying Macs to run Vista... I did :oP Of course, I don't seem to actually be USING Vista now that I've installed it. I'm enjoying the Mac too much!

Amy
February 02, 2007
8:54 PM PT


What Apple's forthcoming portable wireless phone needs, in view of its obvious disadvantages (high price, limitation to Cingular, small memory for music/video, lack of voice dialing) is a KILLER APP.

For this, that app could well be DICTATION SOFTWARE (since a microphone is already present, as well as a stripped down OS) . . . that would let a user dictate an outgoing Email, or a bit of text that could go into a rudimentary word processor (like TEXTEDIT), and thence to a memory file or, by any one of several means, to a printer if desired.

Then the device, trademark issues permitting, could be renamed the POCKET MAC !

Al Feldzamen
February 04, 2007
1:20 PM PT

The commercial was pretty accurate, considering that Dell and others were selling computers that could barely run Windows Vista Basic right up to the launch.

Needless to say, the distinction between Windows Vista Capable and Windows Vista Premium Ready was lost on a lot of people.

I have a six month old PC sitting on my desk that the Upgrade Advisor says can barely run Home Basic, let alone anything else.

So yes, PC would have to go in for surgery, which means some poor guy will be banging his knuckles trying to reach the memory modules. I remember the last time I tried upgrading my PC and it was a horrid experience I would recommend to exactly nobody.

Sadly the best thing to do would be to throw PC into hte trash bin and buy a new one.

Poor PC :-(.

D

February 05, 2007
12:03 PM PT

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